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obama when he had those opportunities, either punted and didn't want to, you know, go into the rough and tumable with the governor, which is surprising, because i wouldn't have expected that from him. >> rose: thank you, ben, thank you, david. >> thank you, charlie. >> rose: great to see you. back in a moment, stay with us. the fundamental principles of democracy rely on an accurate and reliable system of vote counting. despite continued advances in voting technology, zero there are security issues still persist, barbara simons is an expert on electronic voting and on the advisor of the election commission and her book is called broken ballots will your votes counties, welcome. >> thank you very much, it is a pleasure. >> you have been involved in computer science most of your adult left. >> i have a ph.d. >> rose: yes. that qualifies you. how did you get invved in this, though, the technology of voting? >> well, in 2003, a colleague of mine, david dill, a professor at stanford discovered that silicon centrally, santa clara county was about to buy voting machines to be used there and
obama when he had those opportunities, either punted and didn't want to, you know, go into the rough and tumable with the governor, which is surprising, because i wouldn't have expected that from him. >> rose: thank you, ben, thank you, david. >> thank you, charlie. >> rose: great to see you. back in a moment, stay with us. the fundamental principles of democracy rely on an accurate and reliable system of vote counting. despite continued advances in voting technology, zero...
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here is what a poll tells us happened last night. it showed us that basically nothing happened that today in the poll taken today that president obama has gone up one point. that is movement within the margin of error and means nothing. the den vver post head line tod uses a boxing analogy round one. the reporter who wrote the front-page story switches to another sport bull fighting, in the first paragraph of his article it is perfect. republican nominee charged at president obama, at the university of denver on wednesday, in a clash that was notable for romney's aggressiveness in a direct night. here is the great part like a bull to a matador. romney time and again turned toward obama to the tax po portraying him hopeless in trying to turn the economy around. like a bull to a matador turned to obama to deliver attacks. like a bull to a matador. and what does a matador do to a bull in the end? hey. hey eddie. i brought your stuff. you don't have to do this. yes i do. i want you to keep this. it'd be weird. take care. you too. [ sighs
here is what a poll tells us happened last night. it showed us that basically nothing happened that today in the poll taken today that president obama has gone up one point. that is movement within the margin of error and means nothing. the den vver post head line tod uses a boxing analogy round one. the reporter who wrote the front-page story switches to another sport bull fighting, in the first paragraph of his article it is perfect. republican nominee charged at president obama, at the...
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tell us how it works. >>guest: we take all of the polls that are out, publicly available polls that are out at any given point if time and we average them together. at presidential level and the national level, we get a group of polls coming out all time, some of them conflicting. we have a poll one day that says, for example, obama is up two in ohio. we will get a poll the next day that says he is up nine. which is it? that is where the average comes in. they have been useful and effective tool for gaming where the race stands. >> we saw a full screen of your real clear average poll between the two nationally you have president obama up by about a little over 2 percent; that right? 3.2 percent difference. that is from 9-25 to 10-4. do you expect that to tighten or flip giving the post debate surge for romney? >>guest: we will have to way and see. scott rasmussen show romney getting a good bump. the snap polls we saw after the debate showing 67 percent in one said that romney won the debate. another poll i
tell us how it works. >>guest: we take all of the polls that are out, publicly available polls that are out at any given point if time and we average them together. at presidential level and the national level, we get a group of polls coming out all time, some of them conflicting. we have a poll one day that says, for example, obama is up two in ohio. we will get a poll the next day that says he is up nine. which is it? that is where the average comes in. they have been useful and...
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it will tell people all to what they will have. over the last two years health-care premiums have gone up and it has gone of slower than the past 50 years. those premiums have rearisen since 2009. >> and our political analyst jackie is here to speak about. you cannot have a off night like that what has happened with the president? i do not know what this debate was about their work to technical problems. there it was a problem for him not to check mitt romney. there were big openings for him to respond instead he'd just let it go past them. the president did not respond to a lot of things and that is what the democrats are winning florida right now. he said that not since jimmy carter faced ronald reagan that the democrats have not been embarrassingly recognize. he just did not have any energy and the debate tactics were completely wrong for the audience. for someone who has coached debates obama made some serious rookie mistakes. he did not look at the camera all the time, you should be looking at your opponent as if you want to b
it will tell people all to what they will have. over the last two years health-care premiums have gone up and it has gone of slower than the past 50 years. those premiums have rearisen since 2009. >> and our political analyst jackie is here to speak about. you cannot have a off night like that what has happened with the president? i do not know what this debate was about their work to technical problems. there it was a problem for him not to check mitt romney. there were big openings for...
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i'm not here as a surrogate for the obama team, but i am here telling you that you have to decide when yoare in a debate how much of your real estate you are going to spend in counteracting the lies of your opponent and how much you want to put forth your plan. the president chose to put forth his plan last night and that's what spent his time on. but certainly there were unanswered lies. >> newt gingrich, you've heard the allegations. apparently barack obama is facing the same problem you faced, is that mitt romney was just telling loads of lies and you can't do anything about it. >> first of all, it's a great honor to have governor granholm quote me and maybe one of the few times she ever does. but it was a very nice thing for her to do. i think what was intriguing, she actually raised a point that i was talking with my friends about today. i get the sense that obama never watched the debates that romney and i had, particularly in florida. even though both my wife and i have said publicly over the last couple weeks if romney arrives as tough, as aggressive with the clarity and the as
i'm not here as a surrogate for the obama team, but i am here telling you that you have to decide when yoare in a debate how much of your real estate you are going to spend in counteracting the lies of your opponent and how much you want to put forth your plan. the president chose to put forth his plan last night and that's what spent his time on. but certainly there were unanswered lies. >> newt gingrich, you've heard the allegations. apparently barack obama is facing the same problem...
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but i don't think it tells us much that many people didn't already think about president obama. he has become much more sophisticated in these arguments. but i think at the end of the day, he is making a similar argument today, high is, effect in effect, pretty open about the class warfare argument. it is not as explicit, but the philosophy is the same. this doesn't surprise me to see this. >> the national attitudes are set on president obottom a. people have seen him come into their living room, ever day for four years. they have a sense of who he is as a person. so as these videos come out, it is going to be hard for them to really shake things up with the independent and swing voters, which are who matters in november. >> it is not only rich and poor, it is black and white as well. he makes specific racial arguems. in ept -- 2002, the time of enron, everybody's talking about enron. he talks about enron, using tax accountants and tax loopholes to make money and -- and... and mistreat employees. he said, it's not the equivalent of dogs and fire hoses, but i am not saying what e
but i don't think it tells us much that many people didn't already think about president obama. he has become much more sophisticated in these arguments. but i think at the end of the day, he is making a similar argument today, high is, effect in effect, pretty open about the class warfare argument. it is not as explicit, but the philosophy is the same. this doesn't surprise me to see this. >> the national attitudes are set on president obottom a. people have seen him come into their...
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i don't feel like defending obama, i don't feel like defending the labor secretary but i got to tell you, i worked in the white house under reagan, omb, you can't touch those numbers, jack, you can't touch those numbers before they're published. >> larry, look, this election is too important to have it hinge on one number. we got this number of 7.8 today, below where the president came in and we have assumptions. what i wanted to see and there's a real debate about this number. larry, the private sector household number, which is done by calling 50,000 people in the hundred plus million population for workers came in with a number of 873,000 people. that is the highest number since 1983, booming reagan years when you were there. >> i understand. i don't feel like defending bureaucrats left and right, it's not my favorite thing. but these guys, as the labor secretary said, they use surveys and models, it's only a 50 or 60,000 sample but that's nothing new. that's the way it's been for as long as the data is kept. you got 600,000 part-time workers. that was the biggest piece of it, an
i don't feel like defending obama, i don't feel like defending the labor secretary but i got to tell you, i worked in the white house under reagan, omb, you can't touch those numbers, jack, you can't touch those numbers before they're published. >> larry, look, this election is too important to have it hinge on one number. we got this number of 7.8 today, below where the president came in and we have assumptions. what i wanted to see and there's a real debate about this number. larry, the...
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take the wind out of your sails for the work you're doing for the president to get re-elected. >> i'll tell you what, it's really hard to argue against somebody who shows up with totally new proposals that says, oh, he loves teachers and last week he said obama wants to hire more teachers and i'm not for that. that suddenly he's for -- he's not for cutting taxes on the top earners in this country, on the wealthy, and, of course, his whole proposal is denying that he has a proposal that would cut taxes by $5 trillion. there's a name to that proposal. he printed it out. the analysis that was done was based on a romney proposal that now he says he doesn't know what obama is talking about. it's utterly amazing, hard to debate somebody who has totally different plans than he really has said in the past. >> does this mean the president has fulfilled his promise to get unemployment below 8% and this isn't a one-term proposition? >> you know, you can't deny the numbers. 7.8% is, in fact, lower than 8%, and that's kind of the benchmark that the republicans have laid out. i'm sure they are extremely
take the wind out of your sails for the work you're doing for the president to get re-elected. >> i'll tell you what, it's really hard to argue against somebody who shows up with totally new proposals that says, oh, he loves teachers and last week he said obama wants to hire more teachers and i'm not for that. that suddenly he's for -- he's not for cutting taxes on the top earners in this country, on the wealthy, and, of course, his whole proposal is denying that he has a proposal that...
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they think it's oh so convenient for the obama administration. what do you say? >> stuart, stuart, i'm going to tell you something. one of-- let's get serious here. our status stigses in washington d.c., i'm not saying they can't play a little bit at the margins, but we've had a declining unemployment rate and a growing economy for almost three years now and if people don't believe the-- i think one of the reasons people have a problem believing the numbers, they bet so heavily on really bad economy, i think. stuart: brian, wait, wait. i know what you've been saying, i know what you've been saying. >> the unemployment rate to be below #-- >> the reason why the unemployment rate has come down is because god knows how many millions of people have dropped out of the work force and now, suddenly, oh, how conveniently, in the month of september, 873,000 of them come right back in and say, i got a job. what's with that? >> well, okay, there's two surveys, i mean, if you really want to get in the weeds. stuart: i do. >> the household survey where we knock on people's do
they think it's oh so convenient for the obama administration. what do you say? >> stuart, stuart, i'm going to tell you something. one of-- let's get serious here. our status stigses in washington d.c., i'm not saying they can't play a little bit at the margins, but we've had a declining unemployment rate and a growing economy for almost three years now and if people don't believe the-- i think one of the reasons people have a problem believing the numbers, they bet so heavily on really...
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he said this tells me now, we know... this is his mentor. now we know in that church 20 years, the church of god damn america. >> yes. here is what i want to know. a very different obama. saying the american government and country is racist. he's making that accusation. i play a tape and part of it nobody has seen before. people -- it's not a problem. what about the media? why won't they see the news in this? >> they see the news in it. and there is so -- by the way he paid the price for. the reason, one of the reasons he lost last night is he is used to the media that he was not used to being attacked and answered and i love the altitude... >> there is a great line. climate change aand this is the funny thing... >> he doesn't know how to answer? >> he was stunned and never have to answer that question. >> and there is -- he was the president. and so... you have to understand the media has the same lens, they believe in race. they don't get it yet. race ain't what it used to be america. right? >> next 35 days i promise you it's going to be h
he said this tells me now, we know... this is his mentor. now we know in that church 20 years, the church of god damn america. >> yes. here is what i want to know. a very different obama. saying the american government and country is racist. he's making that accusation. i play a tape and part of it nobody has seen before. people -- it's not a problem. what about the media? why won't they see the news in this? >> they see the news in it. and there is so -- by the way he paid the...
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so he said we're going to spend $716 billion more than your plan, obama. and by the way, we're going to spend $2 trillion more on defense. so far romney's saying we're going to spend more than democrats. >> and no revenue. >> let me tell you how we know he's secure with his debate. debate night he talked about romney care, the plan he passed in massachusetts and the next day he went to sea pack and got a hero's welcome. guys, the base is okay. >> the counties in this country with the highest percent of medicare recipient are republican counties. of the 47% he talks about, romney will get half of them. >> 47% don't know they're in that 47%. >> they don't identify themselves as victims. >> right. >> congressman, the problem is the margin republicans ran with seniors in '08, that margin is shrinking right now. that's really problematic for states like florida. >> bottom line is politics is perception. people when they hear a politician say something in private like that, you can't really walk it back. you can't walk it back a month later. there's another numb
so he said we're going to spend $716 billion more than your plan, obama. and by the way, we're going to spend $2 trillion more on defense. so far romney's saying we're going to spend more than democrats. >> and no revenue. >> let me tell you how we know he's secure with his debate. debate night he talked about romney care, the plan he passed in massachusetts and the next day he went to sea pack and got a hero's welcome. guys, the base is okay. >> the counties in this country...
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however, vice president joe biden isn't afraid to tell a hard truth. >> obama and biden want to raise tacks by $8 trillion. guess what? yes, we do in one regard. we want to let that trillion dollar tax cut expire so the middle class doesn't have to bear the burden of all that money going to the super wealthy. >> karen finney is an msnbc political analyst and former dnc communications director and hogan giddily is the former communications director for the rick santorum campaign. welcome to both of you. kar karen, to quote jack nicholson in "a few good men" romney and ryan, they just can't handle the truth can they? >> they can't. the level of intellectual dishonesty, i use the wort intellectual half joking, they took the vice president's comments and truncated them without the most important part, which has been the most important part of what the president has been talking about, what democrats have been talking about, and that is the idea that those at the top should be doing their fair share, and that's something that i guess all of the sudden now romney and ryan, they don't quite
however, vice president joe biden isn't afraid to tell a hard truth. >> obama and biden want to raise tacks by $8 trillion. guess what? yes, we do in one regard. we want to let that trillion dollar tax cut expire so the middle class doesn't have to bear the burden of all that money going to the super wealthy. >> karen finney is an msnbc political analyst and former dnc communications director and hogan giddily is the former communications director for the rick santorum campaign....
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. >> president obama cannot rewind and unleash that last night at the podium? but the way he and his opponent's campaign have adjusted their tactics in moving on from last night's debate tells you more about where the campaign is going from here than any dial test you saw during last night's debate. that's next with jonathan alter. [ male announcer ] how do you trade? with scottrader streaming quotes, any way you want. fully customize it for your trading process -- from thought to trade, on every screen. and all in real time. which makes it just like having your own trading floor, right at your fingertips. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. try our easy-to-use scottrader streaming quotes. it's another reason more investors are saying... [ all ] i'm with scottrade. >>> the president has a view very similar to the view he had when he ran four years ago. that a bigger government, spending more, taxing more, regulating more, if you will, trickle-down government, would work. >> that was one of the very few lines that stood out in the fi
. >> president obama cannot rewind and unleash that last night at the podium? but the way he and his opponent's campaign have adjusted their tactics in moving on from last night's debate tells you more about where the campaign is going from here than any dial test you saw during last night's debate. that's next with jonathan alter. [ male announcer ] how do you trade? with scottrader streaming quotes, any way you want. fully customize it for your trading process -- from thought to trade,...
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. >> president obama cannot rewind and unleash that last night at the podium? but the way he and his opponent's campaign have adjusted their tactics in moving on from last night's debate tells you more about where the campaign is going from here than any dial test you saw during last night's debate. that's next with jonathan alter. yeah, i'm looking to save, but i'm not sure which policy is right for me. you should try our coverage checker. it helps you see if you have too much coverage or not enough, making it easier to get what you need. [ beeping ] these are great! [ beeping ] how are you, um, how are you doing? i'm going to keep looking over here. probably a good idea. ken: what's a good idea? nothing. with coverage checker, it's easy to find your perfect policy. visit progressive.com today. >>> the president has a view very similar to the view he had when he ran four years ago. that a bigger government, spending more, taxing more, regulating more, if you will, trickle-down government, would work. >> that was one of the very few lines that stood out in the
. >> president obama cannot rewind and unleash that last night at the podium? but the way he and his opponent's campaign have adjusted their tactics in moving on from last night's debate tells you more about where the campaign is going from here than any dial test you saw during last night's debate. that's next with jonathan alter. yeah, i'm looking to save, but i'm not sure which policy is right for me. you should try our coverage checker. it helps you see if you have too much coverage...
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i'll tell you why. all those folks can vote for romney, and he still needs those conservative democrats -- >> i have a theory that the people hate obama so much on the right, cynthia, and perhaps center right, they hate him so much they want to have this guy go to the center as long as he wins. your thoughts? >> that's absolutely true, chris, because people like karl rove and billy crystal know that mitt romney is an empty suit, and they can push him around if he wins the presidency. you know that old saying if you stand for nothing, you won't stand for anything? well, romney doesn't stand for anything. he doesn't really have any values or principles that he really believes in except he really wants to be president. that's why we saw that new slick version of the romney bot on wednesday night. this romney bot, they worked on him for hours in the factory making sure he had the right smile, making sure he seemed warm and sincere. well, who was that guy, michael? this is not a guy we had seen on the campai
i'll tell you why. all those folks can vote for romney, and he still needs those conservative democrats -- >> i have a theory that the people hate obama so much on the right, cynthia, and perhaps center right, they hate him so much they want to have this guy go to the center as long as he wins. your thoughts? >> that's absolutely true, chris, because people like karl rove and billy crystal know that mitt romney is an empty suit, and they can push him around if he wins the...
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. >> i think he'll -- he could have done better. >> i think that president obama is -- needs to put his gloves on and fight back. >> i didn't know what was quite going on as far as, you know, maybe he is dealing with some crisis in the middle east. >> i think maybe he needs to rest. >> again, those were people that showed up for the president's rally in denver. all right. back to the breaking news of the morning. today's september report shows a bunch of things. a dramatic drop of the unemployment rate from 8.1% to 7.8%, the first time it has fallen below 8% since the president took office. so how do we get there? the economy added 114,000 jobs last month but in addition the labor department revised july and august numbers to show that 86,000 more jobs were added than previously thought. total unemployment rose by 873,000 jobs last month. that's the biggest one-month increase in nearly 30 years. and today's report snapped a string of 43 straight months of unemployment over 8%. now there's just one more report, jobs report out before the election. mark zandi is the chief economist for mo
. >> i think he'll -- he could have done better. >> i think that president obama is -- needs to put his gloves on and fight back. >> i didn't know what was quite going on as far as, you know, maybe he is dealing with some crisis in the middle east. >> i think maybe he needs to rest. >> again, those were people that showed up for the president's rally in denver. all right. back to the breaking news of the morning. today's september report shows a bunch of things. a...
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what does your gut tell you? do the september job numbers erase president obama's performance at the debate in your opinion? take a look what the "news nation" said about yesterday's gut check. does wednesday night's debate reset mitt romney's campaign. 11% said yes, 89% said no. i'm sorry for the laughter, but someone made an abrupt move behind me and it scared me. i don't know what's going on. it's friday for the "news nation." thank you for joining us all week long. we're uploads new pictures from behind the scenes. go to our tumblr page and ush watch "news nation" every day at 2:00 weekdays. "the cycle" is up next. you won't just find us online, you'll also find us in person, with dedicated support teams at over 500 branches nationwide. so when you call or visit, you can ask for a name you know. because personal service starts with a real person. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. our support teams are nearby, ready to help. it's no wonder so many investors are saying... [ all ]
what does your gut tell you? do the september job numbers erase president obama's performance at the debate in your opinion? take a look what the "news nation" said about yesterday's gut check. does wednesday night's debate reset mitt romney's campaign. 11% said yes, 89% said no. i'm sorry for the laughter, but someone made an abrupt move behind me and it scared me. i don't know what's going on. it's friday for the "news nation." thank you for joining us all week long. we're...
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on the newshour tonight, what do the numbers tell us about the true state of the labor market? we get an assessment. >> woodruff: then, gwen ifill reports on missouri's senate contest where the democratic incumbent has unexpectedly grabbed the lead. >> this the united states senate. mark shields an david brooks >> brown: mark shields and david brooks analyze the weeks news. >> woodruff: and ray suarez previews another political match to watch, thousands of miles south in venezuela, where long- time leader hugo chavez faces a young challenger. >> the election marks a watershed moment for the world's second largest oil producing nation. and a critical supplier of crude oil to the u.s. its number one customer. woodruff: t >> woodruff: that's all ahead on tonight's newshour. >> major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by: carnegie corp >> and with the ongoing support of these institutions and foundations. and... >> this program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting. and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> brow
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